30
Jul

Look For The Good In Others And They’ll See The Good In You

This past weekend brought the news that Martin Phillipps, the genius behind The Chills had died.

I woke up to this news. My Facebook feed showed photos and videos of different songs by The Chills. Usually the classics, “Pink Frost”, “Heavenly Pop Hit”, “I Love My Leather Jacket”. Some other friends posted photos with Martin, sharing a special moment when they talked about this or that.

I had to digest it. I love The Chills very much. I’ve been lucky to have seen them 3 times I think. Once in New York. Once in London. Once at Indietracks. I think they played a few years ago here in NYC somewhere in the Upper West Side, a wine bar or something like that. I didn’t go. It was just after the pandemic. I regret this.

These days I go to very few concerts. Usually of bands I hadn’t seen before. I have to pick my battles. But I would do anything to rewind the time clock, and be around and available on October 16, 2022, their last New York City gig.

I am going through my photos. 2016. New York City Popfest. The Chills play Littlefield. I had already seen them in the UK. But this was the one and only time I would talk to Martin.

He was hanging out around the merch area. I don’t remember The Chills having any merch, but maybe I am wrong. I had some Cloudberry merch that year, but Chris Jigsaw was helping with that. But I went and talked to Martin. I asked for a photo afterwards too.

What did we talk? About the gig he was going to play that day. We also chatted a bit about the London gigs and Indietracks. Maybe we talked a bit more. I can’t remember. I just thought he was very cool and down to earth. That made me happy, that one of my heroes didn’t mind chatting with me, an unknown guy, just like that.

The gig that day was amazing. I am pretty sure they ended with “Heavenly Pop Hit”. They played their hits too, but not one of my favourite songs, “Brave Words”. I don’t think I heard The Chills play this song live in any of the three times I saw them.

I remember singing aloud “Wet Blanket”, word by word. I was happy. “Pink Frost” gave me shivers. “Eazy Peazy” made me giggle.

Always.

Now sadly Martin is no longer with us. And won’t be able to see The Chills again. Of course the music will always be around and can listen to the songs over and over. Many great records. Many great tracks.

Today I wanted to do a little tribute to one of his lesser known projects, The Pop Art Toasters. I am sure that about The Chills a lot have been written. And probably everyone reading this blog knows about those songs. Then there is Martin and the Moondogs who did a cover of Abba’s “Tropical Loveland”, but I don’t have an MP3 of this song to share.

So yeah, the Pop Art Toasters. They were on Flying Nun Records in the mid 90s. Released just one record, a self-titled EP, on CD and cassette. Catalog number was FNCD288 or FNMC288 depending on the format that is.

The songs on the record are covers. These were “What Am I Going to Do” by The Dovers, “Everyone’s Gonna Wonder” by The Avengers, “I Won’t Hurt You” by The West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band, “Go Ahead” by The Squires, and “Circles” by The Who.

Behind this project was Martin on acoustic guitar, electric guitar, clavinet, piano, organ and vocals. There was also another New Zealand legend, David Kilgour, playing acoustic guitar, electric guitar, piano and vocals. On bass, acoustic and electric guitar we find Noel Ward from Lanky and The Strangeloves. Mike Dooley from Snapper, The Dri Horrors, Toy Love, The Enemy, The Snares and $100 Band was on drums and percussion. Alan Starrett from Martin and the Moondogs, Mink, The Magick Heads, Waste the Earth was on organ, keyboards, clavinet and viola.

The songs were recorded and engineered by Stephen Kilroy at Fish Street Studios in Dunedin in December of 1993. The band photo on the back was taken by Peter Hannken, while the artwork on the cover was created by Martin.

Discogs list a UK version of the tape, a promo tape put out by Mushroom Records. I don’t know what happened , but doesn’t look like this label released properly the EP.

The opening track, “What Am I Going to Do?”, would appear on three compilation appearances. The first on was on 1994’s “Kiwi Hit Disc 7” released on CD by NZ On Air. I suppose a radio station was behind this one.

Then in 2006, when a Flying Nun revival was happening, the song would appear on the 4CD compilation “Flying Nun 25th Anniversary Box Set” (FNCD500).

The other appearance is on a DVD called “Second Season – Flying Nun DVD II” that was released by Flying Nun (FNDVD489) in 2004. I wonder then, was there a video of this track?

Yes there was. You can see it on Youtube.

There is also another great find on Youtube. There is the Pop Art Toasters playing live at Otago Museum in Dunedin on February 27, 1993. They play the song “Everyone’s Gonna Wonder”.

Martin was a fan of 60s pop. He picked some top tracks and they made some fantastic covers. I wonder, will there be some cool bands releasing covers of The Chills songs? There should be. There should be plenty of them. In my perfect world, we should continue celebrating The Chills.

I am a fan of The Chills. Will always be. So many great songs, many great records. I am just so sad today. I think it is only normal.

Ideas come to my mind. Like why I haven’t traveled to New Zealand yet. Is there anything to see in Dunedin that screams to a fan The Chills? I don’t know! I must know.

Gigs, records, songs. That’s what I am saving and carrying with me. Another of the good ones leaves us. A giant. A legend of pop music. One I will always be grateful for. For his brave words, for his part past part fiction lyrics.

Goodbye genius, goodbye legend.

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Pop Art Toasters – Go Ahead

29
Jul

I continue going through the “Teeny Poppers” compilation tape. As I had discovered The Through Corners, there are a few other bands that I don’t know and I want to find details. One of them is the French band Meek, who I have heard by name but I had never paid attention. Today’s the day.

Unlike The Through Corners who I couldn’t find any information whatsoever online, and who didn’t release any records, Meek had a release and I am hoping that will mean I can find more details.

On the “Teeny Poppers” (SHOUBIDOUWA 01) comp that Anorak Records released in 1992, the band appeared with the third song on the A side, the sweet lo-fi track “Give Me More”. This appearance would mark the start of the relationship between Fabien Garcia’s Limoges-based label, and the band. How come? The third release on the label, a 7″ titled “Meek”, would be released by Anorak (Anorak 003) in 1995.

The record came with a hand-made photocopied cover according to Discogs. I see a color sleeve with photos of people from different backgrounds. I doubt these are the band themselves. No clue where they got the photos. It is the same case with the labels. These are printed in black and white and we see the same guy with two different women on each side. All of the characters in the photos seem happy.

The record had four songs, “Limonade” and “Fortunately Gone” on the A side and “Arradon” and “As You Told Me Too”. Worth mentioning then that limonade is not lemon juice, but a lemon flavoured soda in France. Also Arradon, the name of the first song on the B side, is a seaside commune in Brittany. Seems like a nice place for a quiet vacation time.

But this is not all. Previously, in 1993, around the same time as the “Teeny Poppers” tape the band had put together a demo tape called “Single of the Meek EP”. This cassette had five tracks which I have never heard and would love to listen one day. These were “Necklace”, “Aradon”, “As You Told Me”, “Meekadance” and “Meekada”.

It does seem that Aradon was misspelled, right? Another good detail from this tape is that it was recorded by Damien Bertrand at Lutecia Garden Studios. Where was this located? It was in Clamart, in Paris, and it was run by Jean-François Marvaud. Another record that was recorded at this place was my all-time favourite “Longer Lasting Beauty” by Evergreen.

Now, that name, Jean-François Marvaud, well, he was not only running the studio, he was also part of Meek. The other two members we know were in the band were Jean-Noël Dastugue and Lionnel Vernois.

The main bulk of recordings by Meek are actually on compilation. Can count 16 different appearances in the 90s.

As early as 1991 we see the band contributing tracks. The songs “Beautiful Evening Sun” and “Beautiful Day” appear on “In the Limelight” a tape compilation from France where bands like Les Chaplinn’s or Des Garçons Ordinaires appear as well. The next year, 1992, the band contributes “Beautiful Day” to Aliénor Records’ tape “Garden Party” (Alien Alpha).

1993 sees them on the aforementioned “Teeny Poppers” but also on “Simple as Them” (OPN 9303) released by Ora Pro Nobis with the song “Behind the Window”. This cassette came out on another French tape with lots of unknown bands for me. Need to check it out in more details.

“Meekadance” then appears in 1994’s tape “Gloomy Biscuit II” released by Gloomy Biscuit. Continuing in this year we see “Necklace” on Germany’s Alphyen Viwit double-tape compilation “Breeze 4” (004) and “Arradon” on the CD comp “Zoumpli” (ZP01) released by Adiam 92, Direction Départementale de La Jeunesse et des Sports (clearly a government effort, right?).

In 1995 they have the song “Damoclès (Mon Chien)” on the double 7″ compilation “Les Lutines” released by Ad Libitum Pop !? (ad lib 6) from France. Did they have a dog called Damoclès? This same year the song “Necklace” appears on the US compilation “Winter’s Mist 2″ that was released on 7” vinyl by the well-known label Silver Girl Records (SG018) and then the track “I Watch Them” finds its way on “Bedroom Palace” a tape compilation released by the French label Lo-Fi Recordings (High2) which I don’t know anything about! (though it has some known bands like Boyracer, Lorelei or Hood).

There are a few more compilations worth mentioning. “Arradon” appears on a 2019 tape called “Côte Ouest”. It is quite interesting as it has 8 bands including ones I’ve written about like Caramel, Les Autres, Daisy Age or Les Poissons Solubles. This cool tape came with the sixth issue of the fanzine called Langue Pendue. Would love to get a copy to be honest! Seems like an important pop artifact to me!

Then there are undated compilations. We have the “Superqualifragilistic” tape (NESS587) that Nessie put out in France where the band appears with the track “Aradon”, “Extract of Breeze A” CDR and tape released by Alphyen Viwit where we see the band  appear with “Necklace” and lastly “Anorak Demos” that Anorak released where there is a song called “Lutetia Gardens”.

And that’s not all. The band recorded a promo video for the track “Necklace”. This one appeared on on the classic VHS “Munch Part I (An International Independent Music Video Compilation)” that Season Records (Season Two) put out in 1994 in Australia. I think I remember seeing this video on Youtube ages ago. But I can’t seem to find it these days.

I do find then a blog post about Meek. Maybe the only one online? It is by a French blog called “Haar Brut” and the post is quite recent, February 2022 (I’m always impressed to see people still writing blogs, it is a lost art in my opinion).

Here I found interesting details. For example about the photos on the 7″ it says that they come from a roll of film found by Christophe, the band’s bassist. And this is also new. We had three names before, but not Christophe. Christophe Degoutin was the band’s bassist. The other three names we had previously, Jean-François, Jean-Noël and Lionnel were guitarists. Who were the drummers? We see two names, Nicolas Gandin and Ludovic Pierre. I suppose they were the drummers at different points of time.

Also worth mentioning is that Christophe and Lionnel would later be in a band called Mr. Quark.

Where are they now then? Did they record more demo tapes other than the 1993 one we found? Did they play live much? Who remembers them?

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Meek – Give Me More

23
Jul

Thanks so much to Andy Pastalaniec for the interview! Chime School, unlike many bands featured on the blog, is active! This August 23 the band is releasing their 2nd album, “The Boy Who Ran the Paisley Hotel“, on vinyl and CD. So it was a great opportunity to learn more about this San Francisco band whose first album was heavy on rotation at home when it came out. So join me in this interview, read through the great and detailed answers from Andy and learn a thing or two about one of the best indiepop bands out there.

++ Hi Andy! Thanks so much for being up for this interview! How are you? You are releasing a wonderful album called “The Boy Who Ran the Paisley Hotel” in a couple of months. But I want to go in order, from the band’s early days to today. So let’s go back in time. What are your first music memories?

Hi Roque, thanks for taking the time to talk to me about the record! It’s an honor to be interviewed for Cloudberry.

Earliest memories? That’s a tough one. Here’s one that I’ve never shared with anyone. My parents had a period when I was really young where they listened to a lot of Motown and oldies. When I was like 4 or 5 I apparently did dance routines for my parents to various Motown hits. I have no memory of any of it, but years ago one of my parents showed me home movies they had digitized and I saw it. Super embarrassing kid stuff of course, but honestly, kind of cool and funny in a way. Maybe a formative kernel, because later in my teen years 60s pop music was a major bedrock of my interest in pop music and all the melodies that ended up lodged in my brain formed the instincts of any ability I have to write pop songs.

++ Do you remember what your first instrument was? How did you learn to play it? What sort of music did you listen to at home while growing up?

The first instrument I ever laid hands on was a beat up classical guitar I found in the garage at my house when I was like 11 or so and my parents were splitting up and moving stuff out of the house. I was bummed because I wanted it to be a drum set because I was really into The Smashing Pumpkins “Tonight Tonight” as a pre-teen and I used to hit pencils on the desks at school like they were drum sticks. That may be an embarrassing and “not cool” thing to be into, but it was true, and sometimes I hear that song in a supermarket and I’m like “ok that holds up,” but they wouldn’t buy me a drum set when I was a kid so I started messing around on the guitar. I picked up the drums later in college when my roommate had a drum kit in the garage.

When I was recording Paisley Hotel I asked my Dad if he still had the classical guitar because I really wanted to do a nylon string guitar solo on “Give Your Heart Away.” He still had it, but he warned me it was totally unplayable and he was right, it wouldn’t stay in tune at all. It all ended well though I think that song benefited from an electric guitar solo anyways.

++ Had you been in other bands before Chime School? I know of Seablite, but are there more? And if so, how did all of these bands sound? Are there any recordings? 

I got my real start in music at the college radio station KDVS in Davis, CA where I went to school. That’s when things really opened up for me. I didn’t play in bands, but I had a radio show and would engineer bands in the studio to play live on air, and also did sound and logistics stuff for tons of diy shows, like probably hundreds of shows in the time that I was there, bands from all over the world. I really wish I kept a diary of it all. But during that time I started a record label through the radio station. One of the records I put out was by a band called San Francisco Water Cooler, which had two members of the Santa Cruz psych band Residual Echoes. That record got some nods from Thurston Moore and Byron Coley in Arthur Magazine which floored us all. They moved to Davis to record their second record and I I joined, primarily on drums, but also a bit of bass on their second LP, and some guitar and bass on a 7” ep. It’s all on bandcamp. Quite a bit of it holds up in my opinion, (but it’s definitely not indie pop).

When I moved to San Francisco I started a band called Pink Films with Tim Tinderholt (of Odd Hope) and a couple of the members from San Francisco Water Cooler and later Julian Elorduy of Mayyors/Fine Steps/Julian Never. I was still playing drums primarily but also getting more involved in the songwriting and recording decisions. Tim and I co-produced and arranged the “Wrong Direction” 7” and a bunch of other unreleased recordings on his Tascam 388. Pink films was directly influential to what I wanted to do when I started writing songs: jangly 60s inspired pop tunes with a bit more of a lo-fi edge. Pink Films’ last show was the release show for The Mantles Long Enough to Leave LP in 2013, although we didn’t know it at the time. Tim dissolved the band a while later after the death of a dear friend in the music community.

In 2015 I was asked to join shoegaze group Cruel Summer, again on drums, and that was great fun, nice folks, good friends, fun shows and parties. We made one record and a couple 7”s together and went on a really memorable tour with The Swirlies in 2017 before one of our members moved away for grad school. Friends forever. Seablite asked me to join right after that, and you know the rest.

++ How is the current San Francisco scene? Are there any bands that you like? Any good record stores? Or what about the pubs or venues to go check out up and coming bands? 

The bay is incredible right now. I’ve lived in San Francisco since 2008 and although this is the most involved I’ve ever been in a music scene since I’ve lived here (which may cloud my judgment), I really do think it’s a special time in the Bay Area. There was a time when people would do great things here and then move away for cheaper/bigger pastures, but now that every city is gentrified, people either stick it out where they are, or are more deliberate about where they live. Couple that with a bit of a downward real estate market post-pandemic (cheaper rent, less displacement), people being willing to live a bit more spread out, and I feel like things are really thriving here.

I could list probably 50 bands and a dozen labels in the Bay Area that I like at the moment, so I won’t even start, it’ll take up the whole interview. But there are a bunch of different scenes doing slightly different things (jangly indie pop, noisy shoegaze and punk, slow/sad-core, more experimental post-punk mutant disco stuff, dark/cold-wavey goth stuff, etc) but people’s tastes are for the most part really diverse so we all still go to others’ shows and play shows together when it makes sense too.

++ When and how did the band start? As far as I know it was just you behind Chime School, but on Bandcamp I saw a photo of a four-piece, so yeah, how did you all meet? How was the recruiting process?

The first LP was entirely me. I started writing the songs for it in 2017, and even tested the songs out a bit with a shambolic 3-piece called Well Read Seals with Phil Lantz (who plays drums in Chime School) and Phil Benson on bass (Terry Malts, Neutrals) who named the group; and for a moment Galine Tumasyan of Seablite on bass as well. That group only played a handful of shows and fell apart in early 2019. Rather than find another bass player, I decided to woodshed for a bit, write some more songs, change the sound, and start making a record. I changed the name of the project to Chime School because I wanted it to be a different thing.

When the first Chime School record came out in 2021, I was doing the backing track thing, played maybe three or four shows solo, but I really wanted to put together a live band. I again recruited Phil Lantz to play drums, and also my friend Josh Miller, and Thomas Rubenstein (who played a few shows with us but had to leave to focus on other projects). Thomas was replaced by Garett Goddard, and that’s been the group ever since. Phil, Josh, and Garett are incredible musicians, who’ve been playing in bands for decades at his point. It’s truly an honor to have them playing in the live group.

++ How is the creative process for you? Where do you usually practice?

My partner and I moved out of our cramped, noisy apartment in the Mission District in 2022 and rented a house on the foggy southern edge of San Francisco’s Excelsior District. I built a small home studio in the garage, and that’s where I write and record. The band has a rehearsal space in the “rock farm” over at Secret Studios Annex in the Bayview that we share with a number of other local groups (Seablite, Neutrals, Galore).

My creative process is focused and solitary. I write songs whenever I can, and arrange them as they’re being recorded. I program all the drums, which is liberating, because (as a drummer) I program them as if I am actually behind the kit playing them, but I have the freedom to use any sounds I want, and then tweak things as I go along. I don’t record solo out of some need for control, rather, I really try and push my boundaries on every record I make, and I feel a bit more free to do that by myself, where I’m not wasting anyone’s time, and I can you know, write the guitar solo, or figure out the organ part with no pressure or embarrassment if I stumble along.

++ What’s the story behind the band’s name?

I always wanted to write songs, but didn’t think I had any ability to do it. My partner bought me a cassette 4-track for Christmas in 2016 and that kind of kicked me into gear because I didn’t want to let such a nice gift collect dust. Our relationship first blossomed over a shared love of sports and music, and we were always sitting around playing records and talking about our favorite “formative jangle” records. The process of accumulating influences, learning to write songs, and figuring out how to record an album was a bit like “going to chime school” I’d tell myself, so I went with it.

++ Who would you say were influences in the sound of the band?

The influences are almost entirely UK indie music from the 80s and very early 90s. Razorcuts, Talulah Gosh, Brighter, Pastels, early Primal Scream, Orange Juice, McCarthy, East Village, Primitives, Sea Urchins, Close Lobsters, Teenage Fanclub, Another Sunny Day, etc. There’s some US bands too, the Paisley Underground groups are an influence in spirit, and of course The Springfields and REM. My influences shift a bit here and there depending on what palette I choose for a given recording, but ya, I really wear them on my sleeve.

++ Your first release was a self-titled album, “Chime School”, which came out on CD, cassette and vinyl on Slumberland Records. How did you end up working with this label? How do you like the relationship with Mike?

Though I was already a fan of the label, I started to get to know Mike through my partner, about ten years ago. In 2020 I finished the Chime School record and sent it to him mostly just to ask if he thought anyone might want to put it out, and he said “ya, I would.” It was kind of crazy because I’d been working on the record for so long and I really had no idea if it was any good, so it was a trip to hear that someone liked it.

++ And talking about formats, as this record came out in 3 different formats (4 if you want to count digital), I wonder if you have a favourite format and why?

My favorite format is vinyl, but I am a record collector. I wonder if I were 20 years younger, whether I’d care at all for the format given how expensive buying and collecting records has gotten. But at this point I’m already committed. As for new music, it’s embarrassing maybe but I really think digital is my most used format. I purchase as many physical releases by new bands as I can afford to, but digital is where I end up listening to the most music. One thing I will also say format-wise, is that the process of recording music is so incredibly varied now, and the process of pressing a record has changed too (in ways I couldn’t tell you) that the quality of vinyl seems to really vary wildly from the old days. Sometimes digital or CD might be the best way to listen to new music. Tape too, because although it adds its own color, it’s more forgiving than pressing a record. As for my records, readers should probably purchase them on all formats, so you can let me know which is best (laughs).

++ I think this album was quite successful, I saw many people raving about it. I played it a lot and remember recommending it in the blog. As it is the first album, I am wondering what time period these songs encompass? Are there older and newer songs? Or most of them date from around 2020?

Thank you! I was certainly surprised. The beauty of a first record is you can spend as much time as you want making it. The songs were written from 2017-2019, there are even 4-track demo versions, and Tascam 388 demos of them. Mostly I was trying to figure out what I wanted my first record to sound like, while teaching myself how to make a record at the same time. Over that time period the songs were refined in cool ways. They still might be overstuffed, but when I go back and listen to them there is some complexity that I think I only got from working on them for a really long time.

++ There were a few videos made for songs from this first album too. “Wait Your Turn”, “Taking Time to Tell You” and “It’s True”. That’s quite a bit! I wonder which is your favourite out of the three and if you can tell me some details about them. Like where were they recorded? Or how long did it take to make them?

Photography is a long-time interest of mine, especially motion-film photography, Super 8. “Taking Time to Tell You” and “It’s True” were super 8 videos, and “Wait Your Turn” was digital– as I had to make a third video but I didn’t have time for the long turnaround of super 8 developing and digitizing. The Super 8 ones are my favorite. I really like “It’s True,” when my friend Mike Ramos (Tony Jay, Flowertown) and I drove around town trying to find cool places for shots. The merry-go-round shot is a favorite where Mike is filming me from the other side of the merry-go-round as it spins, so I’m stationary, but the background is spinning. I had the idea of it and it turned out great. And then we drove by this boarded up building that someone had muraled flowers all over, and that was a great shot too. There’s just a magic to motion-film that is totally unique and can’t be replicated digitally, like not even close. Editing super 8 on the computer is an incredibly time-consuming process, but I’m a crazy Virgo maniac so I can sit for hours lasering in on specific stuff.

++ And speaking of the videos, “Taking Time to Tell You” shows a motorcycle and a vintage car. Are they yours?

They were! I had a 1988 Volvo station wagon, and a 1964 Honda Superhawk, which appear in that video. My roommate brought a 1970s moped into our shared house when we were in college, and I caught the vintage bike/car bug bigtime. I can’t afford to get into cars, but I’ve had a number of old scooters and motorcycles over the years. I’ve sold both of the vehicles that appeared in that video, but I still have a 1960s Lambretta (mods mods mods!) and a BMW airhead motorcycle from the 70s that’s fun to ride out of town on. I traded the Volvo for a 1995 Toyota Previa because it’s a more reliable touring vehicle. I still consider it a vintage car with a lot of personality, but people joke that it’s still a soccer mom van. Previa heads know better!

++ After this first release came out a 7″ with the songs “Coming to Your Town” and “Love You More” during the Covid times. I read that you actually recorded the songs while being sick with Covid. Why did you do that? Why didn’t you wait until feeling better?

Not only did I finish the 7” with Covid, my partner and I were also in the middle of a move at the time! I actually started it before we got sick, but I mixed it and recorded the vocal when we had Covid. It was sort of out of necessity since we were about to move, which meant I had to dismantle my existing home studio, and I knew it would be a while before I was able to set up a new one.

++ The B side, “Love You More”, is a cool take on a Buzzcocks song. It sounds Sarah-esque in away, right? Is this the only cover you’ve done? Or are there other ones? Maybe some that you play live?

One of my favorite things about pop music is how one song can be one hundred songs, depending on where you take it. Covers are fun, and it’s even more fun to cover a song in the style of another artist, you get to do like two covers in one. “Does Love Last Forever” by Brighter is an entire genre in itself to me. The drum machine sound of Sarah bands is one thing of course, but the particular floating jangly lead guitar in Brighter is especially unique to me. So I was going for that. I recently did a cover of “Stephanie Says” by the Velvets for the 2024 Oakland Weekender comp, in the style of Jesus and Mary Chain/Meat Whiplash/Black Tambourine, just completely noisy with a crazy ringing snare and a ton of feedback. That one was really fun. I was also asked to submit a Cleaners from Venus cover to a comp that will be out later this year on Dandy Boy records, and I did “Mercury Girl” re-writing it a bit and making it my own, that I also really like (with some of that Brighter guitar influence).

++ Last question about this release. It was originally released on tape, right? I haven’t seen a copy of that tape, was the art different? How many copies were made? What’s the story?

Mike doesn’t really like making tapes, but I convinced him to do a tape release of the first Chime School record. The art is the same, but just reformatted for the different layout of the cassette. I have no idea how many were made, but I can tell you we still have some!

++ As mentioned before, you will release a new album in August, “The Boy Who Ran the Paisley Hotel”. I’ve been listening to it and it sounds superb. Just the kind of music I like. So you open the album with a mostly acoustic song called “The End”. Sure, that’s cheeky. But was that planned from the start or when organizing songs it made sense to put this one first?

Thank you! Album sequencing is really important to me, “Start Again” from Teenage Fanclub’s Songs from Northern Britain is one of my all-time favorite openers. When this song started coming together, it felt a little bit like that song to me, so I figured I’d write it as a lyrical counterpoint and make it about endings as opposed to beginnings. It was kind of always supposed to be the first song, but the cheekiness was not at all intentional from the start.

++ To promote the album you’ve chosen the song “Give Your Heart Away”, which even has a cool video. Was it an easy choice to pick this track as the album’s first single? Were there any other options that were considered?

“Give Your Heart Away” was definitely the consensus first single for the record. It’s less than 3 minutes, has a strong chorus, a good middle-eight, and even a nice little guitar solo. That’s a single right there! I have to shout out Britta Leijonflycht (Smashing Times, Children Maybe Later) for the video. She’s an amazing animator, and had this idea to shoot video on her phone, print out black and white stills, color them in, and re-animate them. It turned out amazing!

“Wandering Song” was the consensus second single, because it’s a strong choice, but is a bit longer.

Mike thought “Desperate Days” would make a good third single, which I thought was an interesting choice. That song took the longest to record of any on the record, so I was pretty sick of it by that time. I chose to go with “The End” for the third single, which premieres July 31 with a video I’m really excited to share.

++ The album keeps jangling through 11 tracks and I reach song number 9 and I see a song titled “(I Hate) the Summer Sun”. And I start to wonder, your songs are sunny, upbeat… but perhaps you are more of the kind of indiepopkid that likes rainy and moody days? 

I definitely am. While everyone’s trying to soak up the last bit of the summertime, I’m always so happy when it comes to an end. Fall and Winter are my time. Lately I’ve been thinking a bit more about how people perceive the Chime School stuff as summer-ey. Maybe people equate catchy, upbeat music as “happy” or “summery” by default, but I thought of the first record as an Autumnal/Wintry record with its blue and white cover and autumnal insert photography, and the first song, “Wait Your Turn” about winter, cold, fallen leaves, etc. Some people who have heard the second record have also described it as Summer-ey, but when I listen to some of the harmonies and the color of the music, a lot of it sounds more autumnal and wistful to me. My bandmates, and Mike at Slumberland described Paisley Hotel as more moody when they first heard it, so maybe it comes through a bit more on the second record.

++ The album is going to be released on CD and vinyl. Will there be a cassette version as well?

I hope so!

++ And why the name “The Boy Who Ran the Paisley Hotel”?

I was voraciously reading various music books last summer as I was working on the record, kind of as a divining rod looking for words or phrases to inspire lyrics or a name for the record. Reading the Creation Records Story, there was a line about “a businessman’s hotel in Paisley,” referring to the town of Paisley (where the paisley pattern was invented!), but the line struck me as an evocative sentence so I wrote it down. The name “Chime School” is a nod to all the music that inspired me to start writing songs to begin with, so “The Boy Who Ran The Paisley Hotel” seemed like a cheeky mash-up of a bunch of those influences: Biff Bang Pow, TVPs, Belle and Sebastian, Feelies, the Paisley Underground scene (generally), etc. But also there’s the Paisley Shirt label here in San Francisco, part of a local scene that I also draw a lot of inspiration from. Also, I had an idea– along the lines of the “Beat Hotel”– about a Paisley Hotel in San Francisco where all the musicians in the Bay hung out at or lived at from time to time. Then when I found the artwork for the cover, I imagined this cat who lived in the hotel, and was friends with everyone and would be allowed in everyone’s rooms and knew everyone’s secrets, like a fly on the wall or something. Naturally a cat who lives in a hotel runs the thing, so it’s sort of literal too; the cat is “The Boy Who Runs the Paisley Hotel.”

++ How would you compare this 2nd album with your first one? Similar? Different?

I think Paisley Hotel is a lot more deliberate than the first record. The first record I was so excited to be making a record at all that I was trying to stuff as many things as I possibly could into it. I also didn’t really know what I was doing, which might be evident from time to time. For instance, I didn’t initially set out to go for a Sarah-records drum machine driven sound on the first record. I initially tried to do something more organic, with live drums, but I wasn’t able to get it to sound the way I wanted. The drum machine sound– although beloved– happened to be the first sound I could get that I felt was worth building upon, especially when I switched from recording on an analog tape machine to recording entirely on the computer.

When it came time to record The Boy Who Ran The Paisley Hotel, the experience I gained from the first record and the Chime School live group, inspired me to reach for a bigger, more developed sound and dive into some of the other territory that inspired the project from the beginning. I also feel the second record is a bit more focused, with a bit more of a condensed palette.

++ I noticed that you record and produce your records. This is not that common, so I wonder why you prefer doing it that way? Is it to have full control?

Most of the bands I know either record and produce themselves, or work with a close friend who gets their sound, in their own home studio so I think it’s more of a prevailing trend these days. Professional studios are expensive, and few bands have the ability to spend weeks in a studio making a record from start to finish. When bands use studios now, they’re either more stripped down bands where the record mostly sounds like the live band so it’s feasible to crank out 10 songs in a couple sessions, or, they use it to get drums or bass to tape, and do the rest on the computer or otherwise at home.

As far as the production, before I started playing and writing music, I was Djing and recording/engineering bands, so I’ve always been really into the art of how things sound. That’s part of the reason I like to produce my own stuff. I like to have the freedom to take a lot of time arranging and thinking about the songs while I’m recording them. I don’t necessarily know what a song is supposed to be until I start recording it. Making an entire record in a studio is tempting because I have my own limitations as an engineer and producer, but I’d probably have to make a complete demo version of the album at home first, so I’d know exactly what I wanted to do once I get to the studio, but that’s just too time consuming.

I would love to have the band play on the records, but everyone’s really busy playing in other bands and with their own lives, so it’s more convenient sometimes to record it all myself since I can play everything, and then bring it to the band to rehearse for live performance.

That said, I love what Phil, Josh and Garett bring to the live band, they’re incredible players, and I like how everyone puts their spin on the songs. I know people tend to like when a live band sounds just like the record, but I also enjoy hearing the songs in a fresh, maybe more energetic way, and hopefully the audience does as well.

++ Your records have a particular design, where typography and patterns are the unifying element. Is that something done on purpose? Do you design them or art direct?

I definitely wanted the records to have a bit of design symmetry and it’s very deliberate. I sought a lot of help on the first record, although I still kind of directed everything. My bandmate from Seablite, Galine Tumasyan did the hand lettering for the first Chime School album cover, so I kept it for the second record. Peter Hurley, the painter/musician who runs The Hit Gallery and plays in April Magazine did the painting for the first album (and I wanted something painterly for the second record as well). And my friend Michael Aguilar helped with the graphics and layout of everything, which I was incredibly grateful for.

++ And what about the cat on your last release? Is it a tribute to your cat perhaps?

I initially asked Peter Hurley if he wanted to do some art for the second record, but it seemed like timing was going to be an issue. I was a huge fan of this artist Sally Welchman, from Brighton, UK, who has a project called MoggShop where she does paintings on wood of animals, mostly cats. They’re wonderful. I asked if I could use “Tabby Cat” for the album cover, and she agreed! There’s also one on the back that everyone will see when the record is out, called “Guitar Cat.” I’m super happy to have her art on the cover. I highly recommend folks check her out. You can purchase original pieces–which sell fast– but also really high quality prints, which are nice to frame for home or give as gifts. Have a look – https://www.moggshop.com/

++ Has there been interest from other labels to work with you?

I’ve been asked to contribute to various compilations, but no one’s tried to poach me from Slumberland yet (laughs).

++ Are there more songs recorded by the band that haven’t seen the light of day?

Not really. I’m always so busy with the recording, production, photography, art, doing logistics for the live band, etc. that it’s hard for me to focus on writing tons of songs on a regular basis. My process so far has been: write songs, record, release, perform along the way, repeat. I imagine after the new record is out and we’ve toured a bit I might start thinking about what to do next songwriting and recording-wise.

++  Are there compilation appearances by the band?

Assuming you mean the live band, no, not yet, but I hope for there to be some day! I’d be stoked if they played on the next record too if it all works out.

++ I think my favourite song of yours might as well be “Taking Time To Tell You”, it reminds me a bit of the Razorcuts! I am wondering if you could tell me what inspired this song? What’s the story behind it?

Razorcuts are a huge influence, especially “I Heard You the First Time” and “Mile High Towers.” Gregory Webster is without a doubt a “Cool Guitar Boy.”

This song has a bit of an extended backstory. In 2019 I saw a clip online of the band Swiftumz recording in the studio, and their guitar player Chris Guthridge playing a capo’d 12 string guitar. I had resisted using a capo on my 12 string because it always made it go out of tune– the tension of the capo can pull certain strings sharp and you have to re-tune so it was a pain. But Chris’ playing sounded so good I re-committed to figuring out how to make it work, and I even taught myself to play the earworm riff that Chris was playing in the video (the record they were making at the time just came out, the song they were recording in the clip is “Never Impress” by Switfumz). When I started using a capo more, it led me to develop an entirely new guitar playing style, and I ended up transposing a bunch of my songs from open to capo finding different chord phrasings, and it just completely opened up the instrument to me in a new way. Something magic happens when you capo a 12 string, even just on the 1st or 2nd fret, it makes it way more resonant in some way. After months of playing in this new style, the riff to “Taking Time To Tell You” came together one day, and the song sort of wrote itself in a quick afternoon.

++ If you were to choose your favorite Chime School song, which one would that be and why?

As far as songs themselves, I think “Taking Time To Tell You” or “Give Your Heart Away” are favorites just because they’re really nice, concise pop songs and I love the way they turned out on the records. As far as recordings go I think “The End,” “Wandering Song,” “Say Hello,” “Points of Light” might be some other favorites.

++ What about gigs? Have you played many?

I’m blessed to have a band of ringers, total seasoned pros who love to play shows. We are selective based on our own set of values and priorities at this point in our lives and we can’t play everything, but we love playing shows and try to play as many as we can.

++ And what were the best gigs you remember? Any anecdotes you can share?

There’s a lot, so I’ll list a few that jump out.

Before I had the live band I did shows with a backing track. The first ever Chime School performance was under the overpass at Mountain Lake Park, a secret spot where the scene was doing generator shows during the pandemic. I was so nervous, but people seemed to like it. I was also proud that I used my auto mechanic knowledge to help Mike Ramos and Karina Gill get that generator working in 2020, it sort of kept the scene alive during the lockdowns.

I’ll never forget the album release show for the first record in November 2021 with Sad Eyed Beatniks, April Magazine, and Semi Trucks. I was still playing solo with a backing track and had only played maybe three or four shows. It was kind of unbelievable to me that people cared about the record at all, and then I was having this release show where these great bands I loved were playing it, and people came, and bought the record, it kind of made it real in a way.

The first time we played LA in July 2022 was when I met Mo Dotti, who were also on the bill. They were big fans of the first Chime School record, and I loved their two eps, so it was really cool to meet them and become friends. They’re one of my favorite bands. Meeting bands in other cities, all over the world, is one of my favorite things about doing music.

We did a quick Slumberland package tour in August 2022 with Papercuts, The Umbrellas, and The Reds, Pinks & Purples that was a blast. I remember there was an off-nite from the package tour, and the brollies’ booked a diy show in I think Long Beach, that we played with them. It turned into a pretty wild dance party during our set, and then got even crazier when The Umbrellas played; there’s some fun video on my instagram account of it. The kind of show where the energy just hits and everyone goes a little wild. You can’t make that happen, and it’s special when it does.

We did a Pacific Northwest tour with Blues Lawyer in 2023 that was incredibly fun. The funnest show might have been an outdoor pizza place in Eugene, which on paper seemed like it might not be the best show– a lot of people skip Eugene altogether– but the vibes were great, the band we played with, Growing Pains deliberately booked the show at an all ages space, and a ton of local kids came out. It was the penultimate show of the tour so everyone was kind of loose, and it ended up being one of the funnest shows of the trip. Goes to show you really never know!

Maybe the most magical show we ever played was the Vesuvio Anniversary Party in 2023, where we played outside in Jack Kerouac alley, which is between Vesuvio and City Lights Books. The whole alley was full of people, the sound was incredible. Just magical community vibes all around.

One of my favorite random anecdotes from touring was in Oxnard when we were going to play a YAY! Records-presents show. We had some time before load-in, so we went swimming in the ocean. Me and Garett were in the waves, and Josh was on the shore looking for the van keys, kind of motioning to us from the shore asking where they were. Then Garett was like “Oh I have the van keys, they’re in my pocket” like it was no big deal. Imagining total disaster, I’m like “Gary, we’re swimming in the ocean and the van keys are in your pocket?!” and he was like “ya it’s totally fine,” and it was totally fine.

Definitely looking forward to more!

++ Was there any interest from the radio?

We’ve been played a bit by Michael Bradley and Amy Lame on BBC, that’s the maybe most “exotic” radio interest we’ve had, but it’s always an honor to be played on all the great college and community freeform stations around the country like BFF.FM, KEXP, KALX, KDVS, KFJC, and the ultimate standard bearer, WFMU (among so many other great community stations).

++ Looking back in retrospect, so far, what would you say has been the biggest highlight for the band?

Although music hasn’t always been my focus, I look back and realize I’ve been involved in a DIY music scene of some form or another for almost the entirety of my adult life, from back in my KDVS days, to playing in bands sort of casually while going to shows, to DJing at bars and shows here in the city, and now having my own group. Thinking about all the things you can try to “do” with music, I’d say the only thing that really matters at the end of the day, is the community with people who have a shared musical interest and admiration for each others’ work. Your band might achieve some fleeting fame, or be one of the lucky ones and be able to eek out a living doing music. But for most of us, it’s important to remember that it doesn’t get much better than playing a show with bands you really like, full of people who are all having a good time and love the music. Doing music is such a struggle so much of the time, the camaraderie really keeps me going. As far as highlights go, meeting your heroes is always a cool one, and I’ve been fortunate to have a few of those cool experiences too, and may be fortunate to have a few more in the future.

++ And now, in the near future, what are the plans for the band? I suppose promoting the new album? How do you plan to do that?

We playing three California shows with our friends The Telephone Numbers after the new record comes out:

August 23 at the Makeout Room in San Francisco with the Telephone Numbers, and Hits.

August 24 at Permanent Records in LA with Telephone Numbers, Nic Hessler, and Le Pain.

August 25 at GONZO! In Carlsbad with Telephone Numbers.

We are incredibly honored to have been invited to play the Paris Popfest on September 27, where we are kind of starstruck to be playing with The Orchids, and Would-be-Goods, among other amazing and legendary bands. That will be followed by a 10-show UK Tour we’re incredibly excited about!

Aside from that we are going to start booking a Pacific Northwest tour for early December, and we’d like to play the East Coast in March or April of next year!

++ Aside from music, what other hobbies do you have?

I spoke about the vintage motorbikes and photography, but aside from that I’m a  baseball and basketball fan, so I follow The San Francisco Giants and Golden State Warriors. I’m also a runner, which I got into during the pandemic and it completely transformed my life. I run about 2-3 times a week, about 7 miles at a time. Last year I ran almost 700 miles!

++ I went to San Francisco about 20 years ago! And then I wasn’t really into music. So I want to ask a local. What are the sights one shouldn’t miss? Are there any food or drinks one should also try?

Hit up some locals before you visit to see if there’s any shows going on that you might want to catch, there almost always will be, but there’s no local free-press like the old days so sometimes you have to follow the right people or accounts online to know about them. Some places to check might be the Makeout Room, Kilowatt, Knockout, Hit Gallery, Edinburgh Castle, or Rickshaw Stop in SF, or Stork Club, Eli’s, Little Hill, or Golden Bull in the east bay.
Here’s three activities for a visit to the city:
Hit up North Beach and visit Golden Boy Pizza where you can get a slice of clam and garlic pizza (mmm), or a delicious sandwich from Molinari, and then visit Vesuvio in North Beach, one of the still-extant legendary places in San Francisco.
Go to the Mission, buy some records at Thrillhouse on Mission and 29th St. Then grab a burrito, everyone has an opinion about the best one, but the correct opinion is an al pastor super burrito (no sour cream) from Taqueria Guadalajara on 24th St in the Mission. If you’re a vegetarian the
super veggie burrito from Taqueria Cancun is about as good as they come, and if you’re vegan I suppose you can go to Papalote. When you’re full, grab a drink at The Latin American Club on 22nd Street, and then walk up to 16th St and catch a movie at the Roxie Theater.
Walk through the panhandle, then through Golden Gate Park and into the Richmond district which has maybe the most and best food of anywhere in town. Grab a burger and a beer at Bill’s Place or some fried chicken at Hard Knox Cafe, then go see a movie at the 4Star Theater or the Balboa theater. Hit up Tunnel Records in the 4Star while you’re there (or their Sunset district location).

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Chime School – Taking Time to Tell You

22
Jul

This post is a request.

A few days ago a German indiepop fan called Martin Beck reached out about a band called Don’t Mind Us. He had heard one song called “Easy on the Eyes” on the excellent Youtube channel that the enigmatic stoneeyedkiller runs.

As expected he was hoping to find more information about the band. I listened to the song and I thought it was great. So it seemed like a good challenge. What can we find about this obscure band?

The first thing I am able to find is a name. That is of Stephen Walsh. He was part of the band. He recently uploaded the track to his Soundcloud account. There he gives us two more details. The song was recorded around 1990 and it was on a cassette. Possibly part of a demo tape?

On this account I notice Stephen is currently in another band, one called Headless. He has uploaded a few songs dating from 2023. These are mostly covers.

To my surprise I will find that Headless actually started back in 1992 and was resurrected in 2014. The question is then, in 1992 was it also a cover band?

One interesting bit is that Headless hails from Edinburgh, Scotland. Does that mean that Don’t Mind Us was from the same city? It is very probable, though I believe Stephen is actually from Livingstone. Quite close.

I also think Stephen was the guitar player in Don’t Mind Us. But who were the other members? I think that’s where the challenge is.

This is all I could find. I suppose next step will be to get in touch with Stephen (or other band members) and find out the story behind the band. Did they play live? Did they record more songs? I’d definitely would like to know.

Any help will be appreciated.

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Don’t Mind Us – Easy on the Eyes

15
Jul

I continue going through French tapes. I am hoping to find information about bands that are clearly forgotten and no one mentions anymore. Bands that had perhaps one or a handful of songs released and their footprint on the internet is non-existent. Hoping that people that were in these bands would get in touch. Or people that knew them. What I want to know? Well, band members would be good. If they recorded more songs. That sort of thing.

The only detail I know is that they were French.

Maybe you can help me?

This time I want to find our more about a band called The Through Corners. The only thing I know is that they recorded a song called “Healthclubs Hyprocrisy” sometime in the early 90s. This song would end up on a compilation tape called “Teeny Poppers” (SHOUBIDOUWA 01) that came out on the Anorak Records label from Limoges, France.

I’ve written a bit about this tape in the past as I have featured many bands that appear in it. Bands that are more known of course like The Almanacs, The Penelopes, Budgie Jacket, Hope, The Kensingtons and more. In one interview I did in the past with Fabien from Anorak Records he did say the band hailed from France though.

As far as I know the tape didn’t include any information about the bands. So that’s not very helpful.

In any case the song is quite nice, upbeat, and makes me wonder if they had a demo tape recorded. I’d love to listen to it.

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The Through Corners – Healthclubs Hyprocrisy

07
Jul

Didier Orain was Monsieur de Forsaings. Sometimes writtenMonsieur De Forsaings, Mr De Foursaings, Monsieur de Foursaings, M. de Foursaings, Monsieur De Foursaing, Mr. De Foursaings, Mr. De Foursaing or Mr.De Forsang.

Mostly active in the 90s, the French project appeared on many compilations and released a few records. As I had been going through the 1990 “Heol Daou” (Katiho 02) tape compilation, checking all the bands, I find that Monsieur de Foursaings appears with “Mes Maris”. But let’s see what else, what other songs he released.

From what I see that was his first song released, maybe there were other demos on other tapes, but Discogs has that one as the earliest. Then came “Pourquoi Je Ne Plais Pas”, the track that appears on “Teeny Poppers” the superb comp tape that Fabien Garcia released on his Anorak Records (SHOUBIDOUWA 01) in 1992. That same year the song “Le Blue D’Annie” appeared on “Whoops!” a French tape comp released by Houpla where bands from around the world contributed songs including Even as We Speak, The Tables, Die Fünf Freunde or Secret Shine among others.

In 1993 we see the same song, “Le Blue D’Annie”, appear on a CD comp by the French label Rosebud called “The Great Collection V°2”. And again, in 93, the same song, now titled “Annie”, appears on the cassette compilation “Ces Chères Têtes Blondes” released by Cindie (CIN 01). This tape came with a 32 page booklet that I’d love to see one day. Many bands here to discover too. And looking at this release on Discogs I am surprised that this website hides the cover art, thinking it is 18 years and older material! Odd!

In 1994 the band finally releases its first record. It is a 7″ on Ad Libitum Pop!? (Ad Lib 5). It is called “Souvenir de Ma Soeur” and included 3 tracks, “Dolly Parton” and “La Plage est Vide” on the A side and “Ces Heures de Loire” on the B side. On this record we see that the great Phillippe Katerine played bass and guitar, Anthony Ka drums and Anne Blanchard did vocals, same as Mr. de Foursaings. The engineer for the recordings was Pascal Douillard.

1996 sees the band start its collaboration with Escalator Records from Japan. First with the song “Ma Demoiselle Habile” on the CD compilation “New One” (ESCD001). And then the next year with a split 7″ with Fugu. This 7″ (ESINGLE006) would have Mr. de Foursaings song “(Tout Va Bien) Sous Le Soleil Mexicain”, which is such a great track!

Quattro Records from Japan would do an Escalator Records compilation called “Escalator Records Presents Premier CD for Nagoya Parco South” (QTCN-1105) in 1998. On this compilation the band appears with the track “Les Couples Modernes”.

This same year, 1998, the band releases its first and only album, “Voulez-Vous Me Faire la Cour?” on Escalator Records (ESCD005). On this CD, recorded at the Garage Hermétique in the suburb of Rezé, in Nantes,  Mr. de Foursaings collaborates with many musicians: Gaëtan Chataignier on bass, Jérôme Marchand on cello, Olivier Angebeault on trumpet, Phillippe Allaire on grand piano, Etienne Tabourier on viola and violin, Gaëlle Claquin on violin, Nicolas Moreau on synths, Anne Blanchard again on vocals, Anthony Ka again on drums, Stéphane Louvain from the Little Rabits (and many other bands like La Secte Humaine or French Cowboy) on guitar, Stéphanie Hugli on vibraphone and organ, Simon Mary on contrabass, Jean-Marc Gestin on drums, Philippe Eveno on electric guitar and Stanislas Gielara on percussion. Nicolas Moreau was the person who recorded the tracks too.

The album had 15 songs. these were: “Prélude de la Mariée”, “Annie”, “L’Automne D’Alice”, “Faut-il Mentir?”, “Around Alice”, “Chanson À S”, “La Mariée, Même”, “Voulez-vous Me Faire La Cour ?”, “Les Rendez-vous Manqués”, “Les Couples Modernes”, “Noël À Campbon”, “Ces Heures de Loire”, “(Tout Va Bien) Sous Le Soleil Mexicain” and “Final du Marié”.

It is also worth mentioning that the Monsieur played many instruments too including the horn, bells, celesta, organ, piano, vibraphone as well as singing.

“Faut-il Mentir” would be selected to appear on the Polydor Japan compilation “Allo La France?… Moshi Moshi? – Une Sélection Par Katerine” (POCP 1702) in 1999.

The next year, 2000, the track “(Tout Va Bien) Sous Le Soleil Mexicain” appears on “Escalator Collection”, a new CD comp released by Escalator (ESCD013).

There is an undated 3″ CD compilation called “New New No” that Escalator released (ESC 008). This one had a live version of “Mademoireselle Habile (Live)”. I wonder if that was a misspelling?

Some years after, possibly after the project was no more, the song “T’épouser” appears on the CD “Chantier N°7 Slow” that came out on Travaux Publics (TP00007).  It is also worth noting that some mixes were released in 2005. The DJ “Masashi Naka” remixed the song “Around Alice” for the compilation “We are Escalator Records Part 5” (ESCD048) and the DJ TGMX would do the same for the song “Les Couples Modernes” for “We are Escalator Records Part 6” (ESCD053).

When you search for Monsieur de Foursaings you mostly get results in Japanese. But there is barely any info on the band. But searching for Didier I see he is a visual artist now, and his art looks really good to me. Wish I own one of his paintings!

He had graduated in plastic arts from the University of Haute Bretagne in Rennes and has been a painter and also a designer, working with acrylic, ink and on surfaces like wood and cardboard. You can see his pieces here.

For those who read French there is a very nice article from 2021 by Renaud Sachet on Section 26 where he talks a bit about Monsieur de Foursaings. There are not many important details here, but still it is a very nice read.

That’s really all I could find. Wondering about gigs for example. Did he play many? Or none at all? Were there demo tapes recorded? Was it a proper band at any time? He was part of the Nantes scene, right?

Anyways, any information readers can share would be great!

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Monsieur de Foursaings – (Tout Va Bien) Sous Le Soleil Mexicain

02
Jul

Thanks so much to Martin Hall and Rob Snape for the interview! I wrote a long time ago about this great sounding Leicester band on the blog. If you check that link, and the comments section, you’ll notice already a lot of good information they both had shared with me about the band. But of course I wanted to learn more. So I asked for an interview and they were happy to share their answers with me.

So join me and learn more about this great band that only got to release one 7″ back in 1988, but who knew how to craft some pretty good songs!

++ Hi Martin! Thanks so much for being up for this interview! How are you? Are you still involved with music?

Very well thank you, glad that Cloudberry records has discovered The Countinghouse! I was in a band after The Countinghouse called ‘Stax of Soul’, a fantastic group of people who covered soul classics!

++ Let’s go back in time. What are your first music memories? Do you remember what your first instrument was? How did you learn to play it? What sort of music did you listen to at home while growing up?

It’s always been the drums for me and Rob Snape who is co-writing this with me had a guitar in the teenage years…Nothing musically compared to when Punk came out in the UK in 1976! The Clash, The Sex Pistols, The Jam, Elvis Costello, The Undertones, The Buzzcocks I could go on…!

++ Had you been in other bands before The Countinghouse? What about the other band members? Are there any songs recorded?

Me and Rob met in 1982 and formed a band called Raw Material, but then we split (personality differences!) and we formed The Inquiry which changed its name to The Countinghouse.

++ Where were you from originally?

I’m Leicester born and bred but Rob is from Stoke-on-Trent (The Potteries!)

++ How was Leicester at the time of The Countinghouse? Were there any bands that you liked? Were there any good record stores? Or what about the pubs or venues to go check out up and coming bands?

The 80’s in the Uk were rather depressing, society was divided politically and socially. We liked fellow bands like Diesel Park West. No independent record store that I can remember. Local superb venues were The Princess Charlotte (every up and coming band in the UK, eg: Oasis, played there). We had a residency at O’Jays, a small and intimate venue.

++ Were there any other good bands in your area?

Diesel Park West was the biggest… Skaboom were good too.

++ How was the band put together? How was the recruiting process?

Rob put an advert in The Leicester Mercury (local paper) and we met in a pub called The Barley Mow in Leicester city centre. We’ve been friends ever since….

++ Was there any lineup changes?

Yes lots, me and Rob were the mainstays as well as lead singer Ian Welsh. Nick Anstey on bass wrote ‘Walking By’ (Lie to Me EP) and he was replaced by Scott Sibson. We had various trumpet and sax players as we tried to create a fresh sound of jangly guitars and brass (similar to The June Brides?)

++ What instruments did each of you play in the band?

I was the rock solid, perfect-time drummer! Rob was rhythm guitar and main songwriter. Ian Welsh lead singer and lead guitar. Nick Anstey and Scott Abson bass boys.

++ How was the creative process for you? Where did you usually practice?

Rob or Ian would bring songs in and we’d arrange them together. We Rehearsed at Archway Studios.

++ What’s the story behind the band’s name?

See Rob’s comments in your blog on The Countinghouse: “We sang about everyday life and ordinary people and how UK society was divided socially and politicians were obsessed with saving money in the 1980’s by cutting services (hence the name the Countinghouse).”

++ You released a 7″ in 1988 on Clear Cut Records. My first question is about this label. Was it your own? What can you tell me about it?

It wasn’t our label but we signed because it was independent, a new start up and rather amateur. But we needed a break!

++ How difficult was it to put out this 7″? How many copies were made?

500 were pressed and we had a distribution deal with Probe Plus nationally and internationally (you can still see the single for sale in Holland today and I bought one from Australia a few years back!)

++ Before recording this record, had the band had experience recording? Did you make any demo tapes perhaps?

Yes we made several demos with the same producer (Rick Wilson).

++ For the 7″, did you work with a producer? Where was it recorded?

Can’t remember where but it was Rick Wilson from the band Diesel Park West.

++ There was a demo tape I found that has four songs, “(Within These) Four Walls”, “Makings of You”, “Song Three” and “Broken Toy”. When was this demo recorded? Are there any other demo tapes?

They were recorded around 1989 /1990 and were going to be the 2nd single/EP. You need to hear ‘The Makings of You’ because its inaudible on YouTube for some reason.

++ Then on Youtube there are more songs. Where do these songs come from?

Demos from the same time. We hoped to make an album but the label ran out of money (and commitment) after Pack Your Bags/Closer unfortunately didn’t set the world alight!
(We were perhaps just one John Peel play away from making another single – he wrote to us once to say he just couldn’t fit us in).

++ Was there any interest from any labels to work with you? Perhaps big labels?!

No, we were ‘undiscovered’ by big labels! Plus we wanted to stay Indie! Love Cloudberry by the way!

++ Are there more songs recorded by the band? Unreleased ones?

Several yeah, but its just demo tapes and perhaps a bit too late for us now!

++ My favourite song of yours is “Streets Where You Live”, wondering if you could tell me what inspired this song? What’s the story behind it?

It was about the fact that politics isn’t really about politicians, it’s about us, me and you, it’s all around us and it’s on the street where you live (although Rob stole the title from Nat Cole, which is rather cool I think!)

++ If you were to choose your favorite The Countinghouse song, which one would that be and why?

We love the optimism of Pack Your Bags! And the sentiments and meaning (and trumpet line!) of Closer. On the Street Where You Live is a beauty, but the two songs that used to get everyone dancing and uplifted were I Wish I was There and Within These Four Walls.

++ What about gigs? Did you play many?

We played locally and nationally. We once supported the great Joe Strummer (of The Clash!) in Nottingham and Billy Bragg’s trumpet player Dave Woodhead played trumpet (and wrote the trumpet lines) on Pack Your Bags and Closer. His solo on Levi Stubbs’ tears is a jewel!

++ And what were the best gigs in general that you remember? Any anecdotes you can share?

University gigs were good. And O’Jays in Leicester. And supporting Joe Strummer at Nottingham Rock City. And we played venues in Covent Garden, St Pancras and Hammersmith in London.

++ And were there any bad ones?

Lots of bad ones! Some people prefer to chat when they go out and bands are a distraction and they won’t give you a chance or recognise potential.

++ When and why did The Countinghouse stop making music? Were any of you involved in any other projects afterwards?

I was in Stax of Soul for many years. We finished because we got dropped by the label (who just packed it in), but  i really wish we’d have kept going because just a few years later ‘Britpop’ happened (Oasis, Blur) and we’d have been in the frame there we reckon!

++ Was there any interest from the radio? TV?

Yes were were on local radio and BBC daytime TV did a piece on us when we were promoting the single, as did UK Midlands news but it was low level really.

++ What about the press? Did they give you any attention?

No nothing apart from local press

++ What about fanzines?

Yes, fanzines were kind to us, decent people who run fanzines and want bands to progress: there was a Walthamstow (London) fanzine that loved us and asked lots of questions in interviews (as you are doing here).

++ Looking back in retrospect, what would you say was the biggest highlight for the band?

The many many small gigs when we didn’t exactly shake the world but we certainly shook the room! And there was a connection with the audience there….
And cutting our double A single (which we thought would be the first of many…… but doesn’t life disappoint?)
And being on British TV.
And supporting Joe Strummer and the Mescaleros!

++ Aside from music, what other hobbies do you have?

Sports such as English football, socialising with friends, travelling to different parts of the world to see that we are all still ‘Closer than it seems’!

++ I’ve never been to Leicester so I’d love to ask a local. What do you  suggest checking out in your town, like what are the sights one shouldn’t miss? Or the traditional food or drinks that you love that I should try?

Leicester is a lively and friendly and multicultural city. I recommend the Diwali lights and the fantastic Asian food here!

++ Anything else you’d like to add?

Just to say thank you for your interest in The Countinghouse and our music. Please could you post a review of our songs on your excellent Cloudberry Cake blog? We would be genuinely interested in your opinions and feelings about our songs. It was an all-consuming and heartfelt and passionate project for us for many years and it would be good to keep our legacy alive!

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The Countinghouse – Streets Where You Live

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Monica Vitti (born Maria Luisa Ceciarelli; 3 November 1931 – 2 February 2022) was an Italian actress who starred in several award-winning films directed by Michelangelo Antonioni during the 1960s. She appeared with Marcello Mastroianni, Alain Delon, Richard Harris, Terence Stamp, and Dirk Bogarde. On her death, Italian culture minister Dario Franceschini called her “the Queen of Italian cinema”. Vitti won five David di Donatello Awards for Best Actress, seven Italian Golden Globes for Best Actress, the Career Golden Globe, and the Venice Film Festival Career Golden Lion Award.

Monica Vitti, she was on Modesty Blaise on her first English-speaking film. There has been songs, even a band named after this movie. But I was quite surprised when I discovered a song dedicated to  her, by a little known band called Catty Smell.

I would think a catty smell is not a good smell for sure, so I wonder why this band called themselves like that. What I can understand is why they named their only released song “Monica Vitti’s Dark Eyes”, they must have been totally taken by them.

The song appeared on the legendary “Heol Daou” cassette compilation released by Katiho (catalog number 02) in France. This compilation have been mentioned a few times on the blog, when I’ve written about more known bands like The Besotted, Die Blinzelbeeren, Non-Stop Kazoo Organization, Stephen’s Library or Des Garçons Ordinaires, all of whom contributed songs to this tape.

Catty Smell appears at the end of side A, as the 11th song out of 12.

Sadly there is no information about the band anywhere. I’ve googled quite a lot about them. The name doesn’t help much. I could guess that the band might have been French, as the compilation tape, but I might be wrong.

Who would know? I’d love to learn more, and find out if there were more songs of course. If you recorded one track, you probably recorded more. But again, all of this is a mystery to me. Any help would be great!

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Catty Smell – Monica Vitti’s Dark Eyes